America and Commercial Whaling

According to Greenpeace . . .

. . . the U.S. delegation to the International Whaling Commission is poised to support a deal that would be the biggest threat to whales since the moratorium to commercial whaling was established in 1986. According to the deal on the table now, even commercial whaling in the Southern Ocean Whale Sanctuary would be permitted.

I don’t know the details as yet but sounds seriously worrying.


13 responses to this post.

  1. Other, more objective sources describe it as a compromise solution that would close the loophole that allows Japan’s “scientific whaling” at the cost of allowing some limited commercial whaling with 10 year quotas, i.e., limits on how many of which types of whales may be harvested per decade.

    They also say that this compromise was necessary to keep the IWC in existence at all.


  2. Posted by Randall on March 2, 2010 at 1:16 am

    Just wondering, is there a scenario, in your mind, if whaling would ever be okay?

    Thanks for the quote and link.


    • I’ve no problem with controlled harvesting of the more populous species for food use. Food hunting, when not combined with exportation has rarely crashed a species.

      Note the “rarely” in the above statement; it’s an important caveat. 😦

      I doubt that this will end well, but wonder how much worse it could end without the compromise. It’s not like the IWC has managed to regulate the limited whaling that still goes on, and it’s equally unlikely that anything could be done if the whaling nations just pulled out of the IWC.


  3. In principle I am against whaling while whale population has not been regenerated after so much unnecessary whaling by the Japanese. Again money prevailing over good sense.


  4. I hate the word “harvesting” in this context.

    I am much more squeamish about the hunting of whales and dolphins than about most other animals.


  5. Posted by Randall on March 8, 2010 at 11:01 pm

    What about aboriginal whaling done by native people’s such as the Makah tribe in Washington State?


  6. Good point Randall, I don’t like that either – not as bad as those Faroe Island fuckers. I hate them.


  7. Yeah, whales benefit from their appearance and the sympathy people feel towards them.


    • Posted by Randall on March 9, 2010 at 11:28 pm

      You can really thank Greenpeace for that. I have heard the argument that whales, and other marine mammals, are special because they are more intelligent then the other marine wildlife. However, there are plenty of other mammals that are quite intelligent, take pigs for example, that don’t get the same focus, but are ‘harvested’ too.


  8. Hi guys,

    People are shallow and I would imagine that Greenpeace uses the appeal factor because it gets them the public support they need to fight the gravely serious problem of our oceans being fished and hunted to death.

    I would defend any creature that is hunted for no other reason than sport or profit. And even where an animal is killed for food, I would argue against any barbaric and inhumane methods used.

    Oh, and pigs are cute.

    If Japan is already exploiting the science loophole under the moratorium and getting away with the decimation of whales, does anyone really believe they’d adhere to a regulated whaling policy that would allow them to kill less whales than they do now?

    The whaling countries will just pull out.


    • Posted by Randall on March 11, 2010 at 5:46 am

      International policy is such a week thing. It has to be purposefully vague in order to get the Global north to agree, and then they are practically impossible to enforce with those same countries.


  9. I agree with EP, it’s a matter of barbaric treatment. The Faroe Islands kill is barbaric and a disgrace and I’d be equally appalled if it were pigs. The treatment of many farmed animals is a disgrace, but that doesn’t mean that killing some animals is wrong.

    Killing very intelligent animals is wrong. Unless they’re stupid enough to taste as good as a pig.


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